Comments on: They Deserve to Hear the Truth http://www.danaschmoyer.com/2009/06/they-deserve-to-hear-the-truth/ Journey through ministry as a youth pastor's wife Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:22:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Pennie http://www.danaschmoyer.com/2009/06/they-deserve-to-hear-the-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-466 Pennie Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:11:00 +0000 http://www.danaschmoyer.com/?p=1099#comment-466 I was raised in a Lutheran church, was baptized as an infant, and had my two girls baptized as infants. I was also confirmed. However, I was always taught that baptism itself is NOT what saves you, that you have to accept Christ as your Savior. It kind of scares me that Lutheran churches are also preaching that Baptism saves you from hell. However, I still believe that being baptized as an infant is the same as being baptized as an adult... it's just one of those things that I think is ok for people to agree to disagree on. I was raised in a Lutheran church, was baptized as an infant, and had my two girls baptized as infants. I was also confirmed. However, I was always taught that baptism itself is NOT what saves you, that you have to accept Christ as your Savior. It kind of scares me that Lutheran churches are also preaching that Baptism saves you from hell. However, I still believe that being baptized as an infant is the same as being baptized as an adult… it’s just one of those things that I think is ok for people to agree to disagree on.

]]> By: Matt http://www.danaschmoyer.com/2009/06/they-deserve-to-hear-the-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-465 Matt Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:20:30 +0000 http://www.danaschmoyer.com/?p=1099#comment-465 Salvation comes through faith in Christ Jesus. It is sad that any church would sell the notion that anyone can "perform" your salvation for you - because really when we teach that when a parent gets their infant baptized that they are saved, we are teaching that the parent can save their child through the act of baptism. Everyone must work out his or her own salvation with fear and trembling - it must be personal. thanks Dana for your words! Salvation comes through faith in Christ Jesus. It is sad that any church would sell the notion that anyone can “perform” your salvation for you – because really when we teach that when a parent gets their infant baptized that they are saved, we are teaching that the parent can save their child through the act of baptism. Everyone must work out his or her own salvation with fear and trembling – it must be personal. thanks Dana for your words!

]]> By: Jeff Greathouse http://www.danaschmoyer.com/2009/06/they-deserve-to-hear-the-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-464 Jeff Greathouse Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:48:07 +0000 http://www.danaschmoyer.com/?p=1099#comment-464 Dana: I am not implying that you were lumping everyone together. I think that the following statement of yours clarifies very well: Our town is filled with Lutheran churches, the majority of the people in town attend a Lutheran church or claim to be Lutheran, and I figured, that’s great, they’re going to church! But now, my heart is broken with hearing about the truth not being taught in at least one of these churches. I guess what makes me cringe and I know (or assume that I know) why you said it ... but is the implication that you hold the truth or your truth holds the truth and that truth is not being taught in another church. As I mentioned and commented on your husbands fb status, I am not sure if I really want/need to enter into this dialogue. Dana:

I am not implying that you were lumping everyone together. I think that the following statement of yours clarifies very well:

Our town is filled with Lutheran churches, the majority of the people in town attend a Lutheran church or claim to be Lutheran, and I figured, that’s great, they’re going to church! But now, my heart is broken with hearing about the truth not being taught in at least one of these churches.

I guess what makes me cringe and I know (or assume that I know) why you said it … but is the implication that you hold the truth or your truth holds the truth and that truth is not being taught in another church.

As I mentioned and commented on your husbands fb status, I am not sure if I really want/need to enter into this dialogue.

]]> By: John Mulholland http://www.danaschmoyer.com/2009/06/they-deserve-to-hear-the-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-463 John Mulholland Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:42:49 +0000 http://www.danaschmoyer.com/?p=1099#comment-463 Dana, Sometimes...the truth sucks. Dana,

Sometimes…the truth sucks.

]]> By: Dana Schmoyer http://www.danaschmoyer.com/2009/06/they-deserve-to-hear-the-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-462 Dana Schmoyer Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:37:58 +0000 http://www.danaschmoyer.com/?p=1099#comment-462 Jeff, I'm not jumping to the conclusion that all Lutheran churches don't teach the truth, it was just the church that this lady goes to, which I don't even know which exact one. Every denomination varies greatly from one church to the next in what their teachings and beliefs are. We just have to be careful that we don't teach, "Every belief is right, choose what you want to believe and we wont step on your toes." There is only one way to heaven and we need to make sure that people know Christ is that way and we have to make the decision to believe and follow Christ on our own, no one else can make that decision for us. Jeff,
I’m not jumping to the conclusion that all Lutheran churches don’t teach the truth, it was just the church that this lady goes to, which I don’t even know which exact one. Every denomination varies greatly from one church to the next in what their teachings and beliefs are. We just have to be careful that we don’t teach, “Every belief is right, choose what you want to believe and we wont step on your toes.” There is only one way to heaven and we need to make sure that people know Christ is that way and we have to make the decision to believe and follow Christ on our own, no one else can make that decision for us.

]]> By: Jeff Greathouse http://www.danaschmoyer.com/2009/06/they-deserve-to-hear-the-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-461 Jeff Greathouse Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:25:00 +0000 http://www.danaschmoyer.com/?p=1099#comment-461 Thanks for sharing the story and your experience. I am not sure what to type and how to respond as I am a Director of Youth & Family Minister in a Lutheran Church (ELCA). Jeff Thanks for sharing the story and your experience. I am not sure what to type and how to respond as I am a Director of Youth & Family Minister in a Lutheran Church (ELCA).

Jeff

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